tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10131050.post115410289772567050..comments2024-03-01T08:19:54.547+00:00Comments on BobFromBrockley: I am here to glorify the resistance, Hezbollah. I am here to glorify the leader, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallahbobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15439386754907203808noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10131050.post-1154681166047817022006-08-04T09:46:00.000+01:002006-08-04T09:46:00.000+01:00Not sure what Caledonia's point is in pasting text...Not sure what Caledonia's point is in pasting text from William Martin's Counterpunch article (widely reproduced on neo-Nazi/Holocaust denial websites). Presumably, by making the (correct) observation that terrorist gangs were involved in the creation of the state of Israel - and indeed later led the state - anti-Israeli terrorism isn't so bad after all. <BR/><BR/>I believe the Stern gang and Irgun visciously killed hundreds of innocent people. But that doesn't make me feel any differently about the - much more highly militarised, much more technologically capable, much more strategically sophisticated - fascist paramilitaries of Hezbollah.bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15439386754907203808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10131050.post-1154648629596930892006-08-04T00:43:00.000+01:002006-08-04T00:43:00.000+01:00On April 9, 1948, members of the underground Jewis...On April 9, 1948, members of the underground Jewish terrorist group, the Irgun, or IZL, led by Menachem Begin, who was to become the Israeli prime minister in 1977, entered the peaceful Arab village of Deir Yassin, massacred 250 men, women, children and the elderly, and stuffed many of the bodies down wells. There were also reports of rapes and mutilations. The Irgun was joined by the Jewish terrorist group, the Stern Gang, led by Yitzhak Shamir, who subsequently succeeded Begin as prime minister of Israel in the early '80s, and also by the Haganah, the militia under the control of David Ben Gurian. The Irgun, the Stern Gang and the Haganah later joined to form the Israeli Defense Force. Their tactics have not changed.<BR/><BR/>The massacre at Deir Yassin was widely publicized by the terrorists and the numerous heaped corpses displayed to the media. In Jaffe, which was at the time 98 percent Arab, as well as in other Arab communities, speaker trucks drove through the streets warning the population to flee and threatening another Deir Yassin. Begin said at the time, "We created terror among the Arabs and all the villages around. In one blow, we changed the strategic situation."<BR/><BR/>From about 1938 on to the founding of Israel, Begin was the leader of the Irgun. That group regularly assassinated English soldiers in Palestine and frequently hung their booby-trapped bodies in public places. Under Begin, the Irgun blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in 1946, killing 97 British civil servants. The Stern Gang, under Shamir, also assassinated the U.N. representative to Palestine, Count Bernadotte, in 1948.<BR/><BR/>But Deir Yassin was not the only massacre by the Israeli Defense Force. That army, under Moshe Dayan, took the unarmed and undefended village of al-Dawazyma, located in the Hebron hills, massacred 80 to 100 of its residents, and threw their bodies into pits. "The children were killed by breaking their heads with sticks ... The remaining Arabs were then sealed in houses, as the village was systematically razed ..." (Nur Masalha, The Historical Roots of the Palestinian Refugee Question).<BR/><BR/>We read further. According to Yitzhak Rabin's biography:<BR/><BR/> We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Alon repeated his question: "What is to be done with the population?" BG waved his hand in a gesture, which said: Drive them out! ... I agreed that it was essential to drive the inhabitants out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10131050.post-1154611666691999802006-08-03T14:27:00.000+01:002006-08-03T14:27:00.000+01:00OK, I think maybe I was wrong. Hezbollah is not an...OK, I think maybe I was wrong. Hezbollah is not an army, but the military wing of a political movement - or, rather, a poltical party that is part of a wider movement. It is not a conventional army, but a guerrilla army, although more heavily armed than most guerrilla armies, and with access to much more sophisticated technology. This is why it is important to think of it as a serious military force - and not a ragtag bunch of amateur rebels, or a grassroots movement, as lots of left commentators think it is. In other words, it is a guerrilla movement, but it is not *just* a guerrilla movement. And certainly not a "resistance" movement.bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15439386754907203808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10131050.post-1154471896104994932006-08-01T23:38:00.000+01:002006-08-01T23:38:00.000+01:00Of course Hizbollah are a guerilla movement. They'...Of course Hizbollah are a guerilla movement. They're a guerilla army (what else would you call them? they're clearly not a conventional army, are they?), tied to a political party. <BR/><BR/>Ergo, guerilla movement.voltaires_priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00346308174248473666noreply@blogger.com