tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10131050.post586407029334063621..comments2024-03-01T08:19:54.547+00:00Comments on BobFromBrockley: Blogging backlogbobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15439386754907203808noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10131050.post-31713611258930394982011-03-10T23:05:57.060+00:002011-03-10T23:05:57.060+00:00I very much enjoyed Nick Cohen’s article in the Ob...<i>I very much enjoyed Nick Cohen’s article in the Observer on Sunday about the Middle Eastern revolts and what they reveal about the Western left.</i><br /><br />Wow, that's an impressive shoehorning of Israel into an article allegedly about the revolts in the Middle East.<br /><br /><i>I have started writing a post about the issue of the Israel obsession of the anti-anti-Zionist left.</i><br /><br />Great minds think alike. I'm currently considering whether to try and launch a "shut the fuck up about Israel" month in the blogosphere.<br /><br />As a rule of thumb, although more about blogging than newspaper commentary, I've come to the following conclusions.<br /><br />1. Israel/Palestine focused blogs should really get a by on this charge, as should bloggers who just like posting about Israel/Palestine. That's no different than my focus on anti-fascism really, even if it bores me sometimes. (It doesn't mean they aren't obssessives, just that it's not proof they are).<br /><br />2. People who actually live in the area don't count. Think globally, act locally.<br /><br />3. Subjects with an Israel/Palestine dimension, even if that isn't the official focus, are understandable as well- in a discussion about whether and when anti-zionism shades into antisemitism I think it's understandable that the issue may be brought up in the normal course of discussion.<br /><br />4. The telling sign from bloggers is not posts about Israel, but posts that aren't, yet insist on bringing Israel in any way, no matter how tentative the link is. An obvious example would be the recent revolution in Egypt. If a blogger made a post supposedly about the situation that was actually about Israel (whether that was seeing the revolution as some kind of anti-zio vanguard or seeing it solely in terms of the regional interests of Israel is irrelevant here), then you've got yourself a prime example of an obsessive.<br /><br />5. A similar rule applies to commentators, although it's even easier to spot. If a post is made that doesn't mention Israel/Palestine once, yet they still bring it up in their comments, you've got an obsessive. Without exception, other than the caveat from point 2.<br /><br />Types 4 and 5 are best understood as pathological, as opposed to political. We're dealing with a sociological subculture (despite the pretensions of certain anti-zios, they aren't cool enough to count as a proper counterculture), which is closer to truthers and birthers than it is anything else.Waterloo Sunsethttp://everybodyhatesatourist.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10131050.post-56195318318931654192011-03-08T11:11:33.112+00:002011-03-08T11:11:33.112+00:00Dear Bob,
i don't know your e-mail address, bu...Dear Bob,<br />i don't know your e-mail address, but would you consider this as guest post for International Women's Day?<br /><br />http://jessicagoldfinchforhouseoflords.blogspot.com/2011/03/whos-turn-is-it-to-clean-loo.html<br /><br />No worries if not. Thanks,<br />JessicaJessica Goldfinchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14041597267463814877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10131050.post-9777106228165068112011-03-07T10:59:08.382+00:002011-03-07T10:59:08.382+00:00On David Held: I find his liberal version of cosmo...On David Held: I find his liberal version of cosmopolitan citizenship idealistic and self-contradictory but have had no previous reason to doubt his credibility, so wouldn't want to gloat at his shame, the way I'd like to gloat at Giddens' shame. <br /><br />On The Promise, I found the divided Arab village scene that Skid refers to completely plausible, and the Hebron part more or less plausible, but the Gaza part totally implausible. I will go and read the Flying one's review now.bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15439386754907203808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10131050.post-4042287618297117882011-03-06T12:17:57.119+00:002011-03-06T12:17:57.119+00:00Bugger, forgot the link. Voila ici http://flyingro...Bugger, forgot the link. Voila ici http://flyingrodent.blogspot.com/2011/02/proper-serious-drama-with-message.htmlflyingrodenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12560266705069504771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10131050.post-54300112323276862532011-03-06T12:14:53.651+00:002011-03-06T12:14:53.651+00:00I reviewed the Promise here - summary, not bad, co...I reviewed the Promise here - summary, not bad, could've been better, too po-faced. I do love that the reviewers that you're talking about so often manage to analyse its merits without mentioning the acting, the script, direction etc. <br /><br />And on Nick C.'s OMG shameful obsession post - you have to admit, it's pretty funny that he's accusing people of trying to make absolutely everything about Israel... In a column that's supposedly about Libya! <br /><br />Really, it's an utterly childish and comical piece, from an utterly childish and comical geezer.flyingrodenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12560266705069504771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10131050.post-44674920192931241872011-03-05T16:02:06.274+00:002011-03-05T16:02:06.274+00:00I watched the Promise and found the Erin character...I watched the Promise and found the Erin character more than ordinarily irritating. <br /><br />But then as Bob could have added to his observations on Nick Cohen's column, not everyone is as obsessed with Israel and the Middle East to have noticed much in the way of factual innacuracies - though the Gaza suicide bomber's home stuck out even to this non-obsessed person. <br /><br />One point worth noting: David Held is the author of Cosmopolitan Democracy, whose idealistic version (distortion) of Kant exceeded the bounds of sense.<br /><br />To see him implicated in the LSE scandal over Gaddafi is quite astonishing, as, regardless of one's disgreements, he did come across as a decent person.Andrew Coateshttp://www.tendancecoatesy.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10131050.post-60976719074167299262011-03-04T12:33:55.226+00:002011-03-04T12:33:55.226+00:00Michael Rosen's comment on Nick Cohen was good...Michael Rosen's comment on Nick Cohen was good:<br /><i>Hey, don't worry about it. There is now a special job for people who are obsessed with people they claim are obsessed about Israel. Hey, they say, look at those crazy, dangerous bastards who are obsessed with Israel, we're watching out for them night and day, day and night, minute by minute, we know what their real aim is, we're building a picture of them, that Jeremy Bowen - he's one of them, that Guardian newspaper - that's another of them, they're all obsessed, obsessed, obsessed, we're keeping a track on their obsession with an utterly un-obsessed interest...</i><br /><br />" I have started writing a post about the issue of the Israel obsession of the anti-anti-Zionist left."<br />Interesting, did you mean to put both "antis" in there.<br /><br />I liked The Promise, I thought the Erin character a bit irritating in her ignorance at times, it dis try to present both sides though the Israeli narrative may have been a little more caricatured, the return to the village now occupied by Israelis with the Palestinians forced to live up the hill was the sort of truth which was bound to send zionists batshit (though I understand that in the West Bank it is the settlers on all the hills).skidmarxnoreply@blogger.com