BobFromBrockley

@Jim Jepps - maybe I've just got too used to t...

2012-05-27T06:49:17.108+01:00

@Jim Jepps - maybe I've just got too used to this kind of thing but it didn't seem so extraordinarily objectionable - apart from the fact he didn't seem to be able to pronounce 'Netanyahu' or 'Knesset'. I feel I've heard much worse, from members of mainstream parties (eg Ken Livingstone). It does not seem impossible that Netanyahu is using this situation for political purposes - or at least, that doesn't seem an outrageous thing to suggest. That's not the same as saying there is no threat from Iran - and both their rhetoric and the latest news about enrichment are huge concerns. (Maybe I'm missing something about the speech though - I haven't had any caffeine yet.)

I thought you might be interested in this report f...

2012-05-27T01:13:19.455+01:00

I thought you might be interested in this report from the No to Nato demo the other day.

http://www.bigsmoke.org.uk/?p=85101

I point to it because the two videos might be of interest. One is of Natalie Bennett of the Greens who described the Iranian regime as, something like, misogynist, homophobic undemocratic regime - and then you can hear people heckling from the back (not massively clear on video because of directional mic but you can make it out).

The other is from a Labour Assembly member giving an extraordinary speech (in a really bad way)

Thanks Harvey. One other thing, which I can't ...

2012-05-26T22:56:01.075+01:00

Thanks Harvey. One other thing, which I can't remember if I've said before, is that (as at Harry's Place) a lot of the commenters more supportive (or less critical) of the EDL seem to be doing so from afar, from the US or Israel, whereas fewer British Jews seem to be taken in.

Bob Id forgotten the comment you referred to but ...

2012-05-26T21:41:23.287+01:00

Bob
Id forgotten the comment you referred to but stand by every word . Unlike some ,Im well able to differentiate between the vast majority of Muslims who are an integral part of British society and that of the minority of extremists that form part of the Islamist / far left alliance .
I have ,on several occasions made my own unilateral protest in Tower Hamlets against the EDL when they tried to march through this predominantly Asian area . The last time I went I hadnt realised the march had been cancelled .
I emphasise my unilateral protest as the thought that I would stand with the psc ,a mirror image of the EDL ,would be an utter anathema .
My presence was also a mark of respect to my late father and uncles who fought the Battle of Cable Street against Mosleys black shirts and prevented them from entering the predominantly Jewish neighbourhoods . Today it is the turn of the Asian community . Some things never change. Except that their cause and interests have been commandeered by latter day fascists and racists .
A final point . Most of the individuals commenting on Richards blog are no more supportive of the EDL than me . Again Its important to differentiate between outright support of this political entity , and occasional blow hard comments borne out of a sense of growing alarm and frustration at what they perceive as the rising tide of overt antisemitism which threatens both Israel and diaspora Jews .
Perhaps I am just a little more detached and able to identify these differences so as to distinguish between misguided support for the EDL and loathing for the antisemites of the psc tendency .
Bob , I can assure you that the former are a tiny minority . The Jewish experience makes it impossible to present itself
in any other way .

Bob The next misconception I would like to tackle...

2012-05-26T20:51:33.445+01:00

Bob
The next misconception I would like to tackle is the alleged involvement of the EDL and our small group of pro Israel grass roots activists .
For strategic interests, and specifically not wishing to disclose full rebuttal evidence which I have meticulously researched and filed away in the event that it is required for a demonstrable defamation by a substantial individual or organisation , Im happy to paint a few broad brush strokes .
The EDL together with Roberta Moore showed up on several occasions at our regular counter demos outside Ahava . They were not invited ,were not wanted and were asked to leave or stand seperate from our group.
We were all well aware that their motives for being there were nothing to do with any concern for Israel or love of Jews but were a fairly transparent attempt to further the discord between both sides . A sort of mailgn enemy of my enemy is my friend sort of thing.Except no one on our side was buying it. I asked the police to remove them and was firmly told that unless they were creating a disturbance they were free to demonstrate where they wished .
It was at this point where the bds filmed their proximity to us and in true Stalinist fashion used lies and disinformation to promote their political agenda . Their excellence in this is evidence of painstaking training down at politbureau headquarters under the leadership of Greenstein and his fellow miscreants .
A left leaning Jewish newspaper was sent photos and printed a scurrilous editorial linking us to the EDL . A vicious lie which was rebutted the following week in my printed letter .
Unfortunately the adage that a lie is half way round the world before the truth is out of bed is so very true .
There is much more to say on the subject but suffice to say I am resolved to keep my powder dry in the event it is required in the future .

I am a Zionist. I agree with what Rubin is saying ...

2012-05-26T20:17:16.384+01:00

I am a Zionist. I agree with what Rubin is saying about the PSC. But I think that BIC and the ZF (as represented by Hoffman) are bad news for Zionism, however well meaning they are. What on earth were they doing counter-demonstrating against demonstrators against Lieberman? This is real ammunition for anti-Zionists. Maybe Lieberman deserves free speech, but so does David Irving and we don't picket people who picket Irving do we?

Thank you Harvey. I share your concerns, and Rubin...

2012-05-26T20:14:23.548+01:00

Thank you Harvey. I share your concerns, and Rubin's concerns, with the systematic racism of the PSC, with the danger posed by Islamist-inspired racism, and with the sinister boycott movement. I did not intend to claim that I know anything about Rubin from my superficial reading of his comments. I can understand (or at least, I think I can) why he would feel these fears particularly intensely. He is also clear that he does not and would not support the EDL.

But it seems to me that in Richard's comment threads, a lot of people are very soft on the EDL, and, as far as I can tell, this rarely gets any kind of response from Richard or his close associates. You, Harvey, were very eloquent in a recent comment thread when the EDL came up:
The EDL are nothing more than a rebranded off shoot of the British National Party . A sort of BNP lite for want of a better description .
Their focus is on Islamism . My guess it is all Muslims . Scratch beneath the surface a little , and you will find their xenophobia extends to Hindus , Sikhs , blacks and of course Jew hatred .
Their is a temptation felt by a very few to team up with these people . It comes from a sense of frustration and despair as we regard the hatred and barely concealed antisemitism emanating from the Islamofascist s and their far left / green party supporters . There is a natural desire to grab on to anything which resembles a friend in the struggle against this malignant cancer .
However ,EDL and all that it stands for and its purported support for Israel and Jews is an illusion and a very dangerous one .
They work on the premise that the enemy of my enemy is my friend . They are not our friends .
They play a duplicitous nonsensical game when they turn up at demos with Israeli flags .
It’s not out of a love of Jews or Israel but the knowledge that such a display further exacerbates the gulf between the two sides , Zionist and antizionism .
and more recently: Seeing psc and other assorted Jew haters defiling the streets of Hendon , makes me realise how appalling it must be for ordinary Muslims when the EDL attempt to march through predominantly Muslim neighbourhoods

I was really pleased to see this. But it is the first time I can remember (maybe I'm wrong; I don't go to deep down many comment threads) this sort of real condemnation of the EDL. When Joe Meilis tries, people ridicule him. Much more typical is the response from people like Daniel Marks "what's so despicable about them?" When I tried to argue with Roberta Moore, my comments were deleted and hers weren't so I gave up, even though I kept it impersonal and she was personally very offensive.

This does not in any way mean that Richard is someone who should be assaulted or removed from meetings or boycotted. I will continue to link to his posts. But it limits my sympathy for him, and leads to attitudes like Waterloo Sunset's above.

--

Oh, one other thing re Richard's comment about me deleting who I like: regular readers will confirm that I err on the side of generous rather than deletion, and that I have almost certainly deleted far more comments from anti-Zionists than Zionists or even EDL supporters.

Bob Im somewhat late to this blog but as someone ...

2012-05-26T19:48:54.537+01:00

Bob
Im somewhat late to this blog but as someone who Waterloo sunset describes as part of the Millett, Jonathan, Harvey triad (better than the axis of evil but not as fitting as the 3 musketeers , i would just like to clear up a few misconceptions .
First and foremost is a comment made by yourself Bob, regarding Rubin Katz
Rubin is a Holocaust survivor and now well into his 80s . He sees striking similarities between the rising tide of antisemitism emnating from the Islamosfascist and far left alliance and that of the formative years of Nazism . While not dismissive of the far right tendency exemplified by the BNP / EDL , he is absolute in his belief that the main thrust of contemporary antisemitism in the UK is through the alliance previously referred to .
If you read some of his earlier comments ,you will note his concern over the steady blurring of lines between fair and legitimate criticism of Israeli policies and the demand for Israels total dismantlement . Such a denial of the Jewish right to self determination at the expense of Palestinian self determination is indeed antisemitic .
I know that he is also well aware that organisations such as the Palestinian Solidarity Campaign are systemically antisemitic . An organisation that has as its mission statement and mantra ' From the river to the sea Palestine will be free, ably demonstrates this assertion .
Can you think of any other organisation that finds it necessary to hold an EGM in order to divest itself of one such antisemite and inveterate Holocaust denier and then finds that almost a fifth of the electorate vote against his removal with an untold number voting in line in order not to meet with the same fate .
I have met with Rubin and his charming wife on a number of occasions primarily outside Ahava when it was being systematically and obsessively targeted by the BDS .He lived through the Nazi boycott of Jewish owned shops and he told me how similar this boycott was to that era ie leafleting of passers by persuading them not to enter Also the daubing of the shop with paint .
Anyway the nub of it is,that it is very easy to paint a picture of a person without knowing all the facts .
Rubin is one such person who has lived through unmentionable experiences .We need to see one off remarks in the context of those experiences .

"Why would you think I had anything agains...

2012-05-26T16:18:31.741+01:00
"Why would you think I had anything against him?"

Sarah,

I was only reading your comments, which seemed less than expressive. I take your point now.

But surely this leads us back to another issue?

Even if (and that's clearly not the case) Richard Millett was the nastiest person under the sun, had halitosis, athlete's foot and questionable taste in dental floss, should the PSC and other anti-Israeli fanatics bar him from public meetings?

Should he'd be physically assaulted, for existing?

And these are questions that Waterloo had better address:

1. Are you merely guilty because of what someone supposes you might think?

2. Are you guilty because you associate with political idiots, the vacant or sometimes thoughtless?

3. Or are we culpable for our own **actions**??

I can understand that Waterloo and others might be reluctant to address these issues, because whatever applies to Richard Millet could equally be applied to WS and his anarchist comrades, etc

Critically, when you're talking about a point of principle, you'd better know what that principle is in the first place and thought it through.

Thanks for visiting Richard. To be clear, I do not...

2012-05-26T14:42:22.730+01:00
Thanks for visiting Richard. To be clear, I do not in any way defend the physical abuse RM got from PSC activists. I admire his temerity and courage in working to uncover the racism in the PSC scene. I take the "typical Israeli" comment at him as a racist one.

The racism in the PSC scene is not rendered less significant by the racism in the BIC milieu, such as the man attacking PSC activists as "Pakis", apparently with neither Hoffman nor anyone else in the anti-anti-Lieberman picket either censuring him or moving away from him.

However, my jaundiced view is partly informed by the time I left comments critical of the EDL (whcih included no personal attacks) at RM's thread, which were deleted or not allowed past moderation, in a thread in which Roberta Moore poured out fascist vitriol at mainstream Jews. Although RM regulars were dismayed at her description of the Board of Deputies as "kapos", the general mood towards her was one of chumminess, and there was clearly a personal familiarity from the Ahava demo from several of the RM regulars. In general, I find the attitude towards the EDL in the RM thread, from regulars to whom he is friendly, very worrying.

I don't know anything about Harvey, although he was very forthright in his denunciation of the EDL the most recent time it came up at RM's place.

Modernity - I did not mean to imply anything, trul...

2012-05-26T13:31:48.435+01:00
Modernity - I did not mean to imply anything, truly, and would certainly not be advised to have a go at him on account of the comments seeing as there are a few dodgy ones at HP, as you point out.

I was drawing a contrast, or that was my intention, between JH, on the one hand, and RM and Harvey on the other. This does not mean that I think JH is completely evil/horrible or that I see eye to eye with the other two about everything. But, for me, there is a difference.

I certainly do not think RM should be banned from going to any public meeting. I emailed him after the recent events at SOAS to express sympathy in fact. Why would you think I had anything against him? I am sure I have linked to, or drawn on, his posts myself.

"I was simply stating a factual point, &qu...

2012-05-26T10:59:42.760+01:00
"I was simply stating a factual point, "

Really?

Surely, there was some implication there?

No doubt, I could without much trouble find more extreme comments on anarchist blogs or Leninist web sites?

Certainly, they would be no problem finding xenophobia or crass stupidity within the comment boxes at Harry's Place

But would you blame the authors for that? in principle?

However, all of this brings us away from Waterloo's original point, he still undecided whether not Richard Millet should be banned from public meetings?

Or that it is acceptable for Richard Millet to be assaulted at such public meetings?

I wonder if Waterloo could enlighten us on these principles?

Maybe I should close off all comments so I won'...

2012-05-26T10:33:05.139+01:00
Maybe I should close off all comments so I won't get slammed for that. Maybe I should then have no friends, acquaintances or colleagues so I won't then get slammed for that. Maybe I and others should just not blog so then BobFromBrockley can have the field to himself and he can then decide who is allowed to comment on his blog and exactly what they are allowed to say. How utterly ridiculous.

Comfort Chomsky has given comfort to Milosevic’...

2012-05-25T18:58:33.688+01:00
Comfort
Chomsky has given comfort to Milosevic’s regime and its apologists: “[Milosovic] did all sorts of terrible things, but it wasn’t a totalitarian state. I mean, there were elections, there was the opposition…”

Uh, does this mean that Serbia was a totalitarian state at that time? It's not really my area of expertise, but some clarity may be needed here. Either that, or a redefinition of "given comfort"..

Milosevic came to power initially through a palace coup within the Communist party in the dying days of what was a totalitarian state, using anti-Muslim/anti-Albanian racism to gain support on the street for his behind the scenes manoeuvrings in the Party. Although he helped oversee a transition to multi-party democracy, he continued to censor and bully the media, e.g. making ridicule of Serbia an offence punishable for 3 years. Most of the elections held in the 1990s were characterised by fraud and intimidation.

However, my claim that Chomsky "gave comfort" to this regime was not simply based on this suggestion, but on the stuff I go on to quote Vulliamy and Monbiot talking about: his softcore denialism about Serb violence in the 1990s.

But even the RTS interview (note: RTS was established as a propaganda arm of the Milosevic regime in 1992, hence its targeting in the 2000 anti-regime riots) contains lots of horrible material. Sure, Chomsky criticises Milosevic. But I’ve just re-read the first half of the interview, and in this first alone Chomsky:
* claims that the NATO action against Serbia was BECAUSE it “was the last corner of Europe which had not subordinated itself to the US-run neoliberal programs”, i.e. portrays Milosevic as a somehow resistant figure, when in fact Milosevic presided over the rapid neoliberal dismantling of the social side of the Serbian state before the wars began.
* claims that Serb violence was actually the fault of the KLA – “who were coming in as they said, you know, to try to incite a harsh Serbian response, which they got”
* asserts CIA support for the KLA in 1998, without mentioning that the US embargoed the KLA and considered it a terrorist entity until late in the year
* lies about what he sneeringly calls “the photograph of the thin man behind the barb-wire”, without bothering to name the man (Fikret Alic) or the camp (Trnopolje) – he agrees it was fraudulent and clakims the photo was basically fabricated and the camp a refugee camp
* Repeatedly defers to Philip Knightley’s analysis of the photo as the real expert view, while ignoring the testimony of people like Vulliamy, Penny Marshall or Ian Williams, who were actually at Trnopolje and Omarska
* claims the photograph changed the course of war when in fact it took a year after the photo til NATO sent sailors to the region and a further year before any military action
* collapses the seven years from the photograph to NATO intervention over Kosovo in the words “Well, you know, that's when Kosovo came along”
* makes a big deal of the claim that there had been no genocide in Kosovo, without mentioning that there had been genocide already in Bosnia, which must be taken into account in assessing the NATO response as war brewed in Kosovo.

Certainly, Modernity. I was simply stating a fact...

2012-05-25T18:53:47.705+01:00
Certainly, Modernity. I was simply stating a factual point, not having a go at RM, and explicitly said that I had not noticed any ATL problems. My sense (from sporadic visits) is that he does not comment much BTL and I assume does not delete much - that's up to him. At HP there is, I think, quite a bit more intervention BTL.

"Richard Millett attracts dodgy commenters...

2012-05-25T17:38:32.797+01:00
"Richard Millett attracts dodgy commenters."

Agreed, which is why I removed him from my blog roll.

But the same could be said of Harry's Place.

I haven't visited it in years, but I'll bet I could find some anti-Muslim racism, general xenophobia and bigotry within 10 minutes.

Should HP be blamed for its commenters or will the excuse of "complete freedom of speech" be used?

If you're going to apply that to Richard Millett's blog (and I think there's a strong case), thing you get to use it universally, on HP, Socialist Unity, etc etc

Sarah, wouldn't you agree for the sake of consistency?

Bob, I got all of that, does that mean, supposedl...

2012-05-25T17:32:44.326+01:00
Bob,

I got all of that, does that mean, supposedly *if* Jonathan Hoffman is guilty of something (yet unspecified) that said guilt is transferred to Richard Millet?

And if it did, how would those who attacked Millet and barred him from attending public meetings know this?

Do they have access to a time machine ? To whip forward in time, thus see said instance (which is unclear & not fully explained) then popped back in time and that used as a justification to bar Richard Millet from meetings and physically attacked him?

I am afraid that Waterloo hasn't made a particularly good case, in principle.

PS: Just to declare my interest I have had any number of discordant exchanges with Jonathan Hoffman. He is a Tory activist and makes many questionable political decisions, in my view.

That's not the issue here, it is how does this all relate to Richard Millett? Guilt by association?

If you are saying a particular thing, in principle about a specific individual, then it's good to actually be able to say what you mean.

I'm afraid that Waterloo Sunset hasn't made a very good case, conceivably he might want to retract his comments or at the railings to clarify them.

Sorry Modernity - I was just gossiping. I find qui...

2012-05-25T17:04:34.859+01:00
Sorry Modernity - I was just gossiping. I find quite a lot about JH off putting to say the least. He started a petition trying to get a lecturer (involved in a marking appeal involving an Israeli student) sacked when it was impossible to know quite what the full story was. He has recently linked very approvingly to a piece which seems to be a kind of apology for Lieberman.

http://cifwatch.com/2012/05/24/richard-milletts-latest-dispatch-battle-of-brent-street/

Richard Millett attracts dodgy commenters. I do not read his blog systematically, but I don't remember problems ATL. I don't remember reading anything dodgy from Harvey either.

" I'm saying that Millet's involve...

2012-05-25T16:08:32.970+01:00
" I'm saying that Millet's involvement in those circles does raise serious cause for concern. That concern may be enough to justify excluding him."

What? Involved in what circles?

Part of the lobby? The Tories? Someone who knows Hoffman?

Hoffman and Millett are obviously friends, but I think they also see themselves as political associates, and they clearly work together. I also find that the community that exists in his comment threads, and specifically the people he is friendly with, have very warm views towards the EDL and in fact there are a few actual EDL activists who turn up there.

Here's one regular, Rubin Katz:
With my background, I could never support the EDL, but If I were a British or French Gentile, I would have backed them or the Front Nationale, without hesitation, in view of the creeping Islamoization of Europe. They reckon that its already too late as far as the sparsely populated Scandinavian countries are concerned. But if the British and French don’t wake up soon and take steps to defend their countries, they will lose them. And if advocating that one stands up for their country and culture makes me a rabid, racist imperialist, then so be it!

I think we need to be, at the very least, pretty wary around this crowd.

Sarah, This is fascinating, but hardly germane to...

2012-05-25T15:16:41.085+01:00
Sarah,

This is fascinating, but hardly germane to Richard Millett.

Waterloo made a very specific point:

" You don't have to be a supporter in any way of the PSC to think that, actually, maybe excluding Millett from meetings is valid on principle. "

And I am asking him to clarify his position, what exactly as Richard Millett done?

Is he merely "guilty" for knowing Jonathan Hoffman?

Waterloo's precise point is not very clear, so I would like him to clarify.

Because when you do something "on principle" then surely you have some intellectual underpinning for that principle, whatever it is.

It is unclear what principle Waterloo is talking about and how this relates to Richard Millett.

It was all precipitated by the Germans recognising...

2012-05-25T12:04:26.535+01:00
It was all precipitated by the Germans recognising Tudjman's Croatia. Now why would they have done that? Oh...

Chomsky has given comfort to Milosevic’s regim...

2012-05-25T08:58:43.039+01:00
Chomsky has given comfort to Milosevic’s regime and its apologists: “[Milosovic] did all sorts of terrible things, but it wasn’t a totalitarian state. I mean, there were elections, there was the opposition…”

Uh, does this mean that Serbia was a totalitarian state at that time? It's not really my area of expertise, but some clarity may be needed here. Either that, or a redefinition of "given comfort".

There's a bit of mirroring between the sides h...

2012-05-25T05:54:19.059+01:00
There's a bit of mirroring between the sides here. BIC issued a statement condemning racism - JH doesn't seem to have exerted himself to demonstrate his own commitment against racism (I'm not saying he's a racist, just that he didn't exert himself.) On the other side Tony Greenstein includes on his blog a statement from a PSC supporter saying how they directed SS themed taunts at the Zionists. This then elicited the following comment:

"The comment by Azzaam Abdul-Hakeem is totally unrepresentative of the anti-Lieberman protest, which sought to draw attention to the racist policies the Israeli Foreign Minister promotes.

There was no such chanting as people made their way to the station. If that was who the commenter was seeking to imitate, there is no place for him at PSC events.

Ours is an anti-racist movement and such sentiments have no place in it. Sadly, as reported by a pro-Israel, anti-Lieberman blogger, the same cannot be said of Zionist Federation leader Jonathan Hoffman, who stood by as the person next to him abused a pro-Palestinian campaigner as a "Paki".

Ben Soffa,
PSC"

This seemed fair enough - I'm not a fan of the PSC, but - what more could he say. Then TG said

"not sure what you were referring to re Azzaam. But I agree there was no chanting on our way back to the station.

But when the Zionists started chanting 'IDF' 'IDF' I shouted 'IDF-SS'."

I could imagine Ben Soffa tearing his hair out at that point - although in fact, oddly, TG has now deleted that part of his post, despite not appearing bothered by it.

" I'm saying that Millet's involve...

2012-05-24T13:57:31.428+01:00
" I'm saying that Millet's involvement in those circles does raise serious cause for concern. That concern may be enough to justify excluding him."

What? Involved in what circles?

Part of the lobby? The Tories? Someone who knows Hoffman?

What are you saying?

You made a point on principle?

What exactly is the principal and why does it apply to Richard Millett?

You've started with Hoffman and now applied it (somthing) to Millet?

It is unclear what you really mean, please clarify.

Not quite. I'm saying that Millet's invol...

2012-05-24T13:05:41.702+01:00
Not quite. I'm saying that Millet's involvement in those circles does raise serious cause for concern. That concern may be enough to justify excluding him. I'm undecided on this one, hence I've thrown it out for discussion- "maybe" wasn't a rhetorical trick, it reflects my indecision on this currently.

I am in the direction of ends justifying the means though, which massively predates Lenin as a concept. All ends don't justify all means, obviously. But the specific end of showing disapproval of tolerance of racist slurs may justify the means of excluding someone from a meeting. I think the former is more important than the latter.

I don't think he's Hoffman. But he is an associate of Hoffman and Hoffman almost certainly has access to his footage. That raises serious security concerns. As I think is clear from other stuff I've said, I'm not a member or supporter of the PSC. And I certainly don't propose to become some kind of unofficial security force for them, so this is largely abstract. I'm just not convinced that anti-fascists should bother to take sides in this current spat they're having with Millett.

If Millett was filming anti-fascist meetings (which, to be fair, he shows no intention of doing currently), then I'd need to make a proper judgement on this. At the moment, it's not really my problem.

As a more general point, currently, I still would rather not get involved with this. It's still my view that the whole Hoffman issue is best resolved by anti-racist Zionists, like the blogger linked to in my comment. There's some signs of movement in that area, so I think my involvement still would run the risk of being counterproductive.

We'll see though. At the moment, I'm still just watching the situation to see how things develop.

BobFromBrockley

@Jim Jepps - maybe I've just got too used to t...

I thought you might be interested in this report f...

Thanks Harvey. One other thing, which I can't ...

Bob Id forgotten the comment you referred to but ...

Bob The next misconception I would like to tackle...

I am a Zionist. I agree with what Rubin is saying ...

Thank you Harvey. I share your concerns, and Rubin...

Bob Im somewhat late to this blog but as someone ...

"Why would you think I had anything agains...

Thanks for visiting Richard. To be clear, I do not...

Modernity - I did not mean to imply anything, trul...

"I was simply stating a factual point, &qu...

Maybe I should close off all comments so I won'...

Comfort Chomsky has given comfort to Milosevic’...

Certainly, Modernity. I was simply stating a fact...

"Richard Millett attracts dodgy commenters...

Bob, I got all of that, does that mean, supposedl...

Sorry Modernity - I was just gossiping. I find qui...

" I'm saying that Millet's involve...

Sarah, This is fascinating, but hardly germane to...

It was all precipitated by the Germans recognising...

Chomsky has given comfort to Milosevic’s regim...

There's a bit of mirroring between the sides h...

" I'm saying that Millet's involve...

Not quite. I'm saying that Millet's invol...