tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10131050.post3077255409849992878..comments2024-03-01T08:19:54.547+00:00Comments on BobFromBrockley: Wednesday linktasticabobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15439386754907203808noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10131050.post-19095883976158948792008-12-18T10:59:00.000+00:002008-12-18T10:59:00.000+00:00condescencion?condescencion?bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15439386754907203808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10131050.post-92116690042298140272008-12-18T10:04:00.000+00:002008-12-18T10:04:00.000+00:00I didn't read condescencion in Neuberger's piece w...I didn't read condescencion in Neuberger's piece when I first read it, but when I read your post, and re-read her piece, I think you're right. <BR/><BR/>The defence from Neuberger and Pete Seeger, presumably, would be that they are not condemning the way ordinary people for the way they choose to live, but the housebhuilders and/or the system for <EM>making them</EM> live like that. <BR/><BR/>But there is something in the very idea of ordinary-ness as a reason to be disdainful that is elitist. <BR/><BR/>I also agree that Pisarro is not anti-urban; he finds the poetry in the bricks as much as in the leaves on the tree. Neuberger saw him as not detailing the nature as some kind of complaint against its denuding; perhaps it was simply that the buildings were more interesting than the plants!<BR/><BR/>However, one thing that Neuberger gets right is this: We look at that picture now and see an oldy worldy pastoral scene, but for people at the time it would have been a vision of modernity, which is hard to conjure up now.bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15439386754907203808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10131050.post-45813347070547996672008-12-17T18:31:00.000+00:002008-12-17T18:31:00.000+00:00I thought there was a bit of an overlap between th...I thought there was a bit of an overlap between the Neuberger piece on South London victorian terraces and your discussion of Seeger's Little Boxes - in both there is an element of disdain for ordinary people's housing..https://www.blogger.com/profile/17026835814805695527noreply@blogger.com