Wednesday, November 15, 2006

Lewisham sucks//guerrilla gardening

Nice post:
guerrilla gardening « Someday I Will Treat You Good

(Added:)
And read this too at Bagrec. And read the comments below.

7 comments:

Andrew Brown said...

Ta. It looks like everyone ends up happy here; and I hope when the guerrilla gardeners come back to the borough they'll feel welcome.

Anonymous said...

I get it, grafitti removed guerillias who are actually conservative middle class residents. When will therse people learn that grafitties can enhance neighbourhoods. There is a huge difference between young kids just signing stupid names all over the place, and well thought of and much effort and quite expensive spray art graffities.

As far as planting is concerned, I have much less issue with that, but that's not what the video link on that page is talking about. I always wondered why in London there is so little interest by people to green up their neighbourhood, balconies and window ledges, undtil I discovered how expensive the plants and acessories are in Britain. I'd say about three times as expensive than in Germany, where I know teh market. Why? No idea.
In any case how about spraying a forrest on one empty wall? But that may upset the lovely guerillias, I guess?

Andrew Brown said...

Daniel, not sure why you've not left your comment on my blog, but I think you've confused the guerrillas with the Friends and Users of Staplehurst Shops (FUSS), which is the group featured in the video.

Anonymous said...

yes you are right I confused it. but FUSS is quoted on video as a local action group that stamps ou graffiti a.o. in other words almost guerillias... don't take my German humor personal, it's a good thing, but I am more positive about grafitties - see old Upski: Bomb the Suburbs

Daniel

Daniels Counter

Andrew Brown said...

Daniel, FUSS certainly do stamp out graffiti, but so far its all been of the tagging variety, rather than anything with more artistic designs. They've also done a fair bit of planting and commissioned public art in the form of banners which were hung from the lamp posts.

My own view for what its worth is that unless it's a commissioned piece of work street artists have to expect their work will be ephemeral, and will be taken down.

bob said...

I am a big fan of throw-ups [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_terminology] but a hater of tagging, particularly when it is on people's homes. And there is something about the illegality and transcience of graffiti that is part of its aura and mystique for graffiti writers, so, yes, they should expect it to come down.

Presumably, guerrilla gardening gets some of its aura from its guerrilla-ness, too, so them informing the council seems unlikely to happen.

"Artistic" graffiti and guerrilla gardening are two versions of direct action to make the urban environment better. The issues are kind of like other issues around direct action, like no platforming fascists or beating up paedophiles: depends on your view of the law...

While I'm here, when are the local council going to clear the drug dealers and prostitutes out of Crofton Park Station and its environs? Or will we have to form a vigilante Crofton Park Action Group to do it? (Who could usefully bring in some guerrilla gardeners to sort out that bit of grass alongside the station.)

Andrew Brown said...

On Crofton, I think that might be a job for the cops rather than the ASB team. Of course if I'd been re-elected...

On a serious note you could try contacting both...

Crofton Park Safer Neighbourhood Team.

ASB online reporting.